I think a two track idea might work. I am a more nuts and bolts and angle brackets POC. I would be happy to facilitate the RA discussions at the technical level (would love help; Jeff?). The suggestion to wrangle out some shortcomings of strategy and implementation might be a good thing. Day 1, separate tracks Day 2, we integrate tech with strategy as best as possible Nuts/Bolts track can: [flesh out more of any problems or shortcomings with the selection of services suggested by the WSDE WG?] * Have brief talks about DIF/WSDE WG success stories: NDBC and/or COOPS. Using Eoins suggested end-to-end format. Follow a buoy data packet, through the NDBC data management system and out the SOS service. Maybe a RA or two can do the same for some of the suggested platforms that he requested. * RA's that have attempted to use WSGE WG suggested protocols What roadblocks prevented completion? * RA's that have specific roadblocks for implementing any of the protocols Other topics for this track: * Advantages/disadvantages of cookbooks * Strategies/comments for handling the IOOS statement: Do no harm.